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Thursday
Jun112009

Trouble Maker Campaign

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Designed by HanTang Communications Group for Quzhou Seezo Trading. Love the tagline "Such tragedy could have been easily avoided".

"Wptt Contraceptive (a brand name) hopes to create a new packaging of novelty and visual impact. The objective is to emphasize the high contraceptive effectiveness of the products by indicating the painful consequences of having sex without a condom. More than 100,000 people have used the condoms and the sales increased by 21%."

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Reader Comments (30)

I wouldn't want this in my portfolio when the novelty wears off -- especially since the joke is aimed at your customers and their potential offspring. That's so far beyond subversive it's downright suicidal.
June 11, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterStephen S. Cameron
George W Bush is on the same level as Hitler now? oh dear...
June 11, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSam
Hugo Chávez (Venezuela) is missing in that lovely group!
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterArmando
replace bush with stalin for more accuracy.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterB
This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNick Staroba
I wonder if Obama will be on there in a couple years after hyper-inflation hits and poverty sky rockets from injecting 300% more money into the cash stream. But my real predication is people will blame Bush for getting Obama elected... after all they blame him for everything else.

Just saying...
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJ
Uh, yeah, George Bush is the same as Hitler, because he rounded up 6 million Jews and gassed them to death and started a war that literally spanned the globe and led to the combined deaths of about 20 million people. Oh wait...he didn't. Huh.

As a Jew, I am getting tired of the relativistic way people use Hitler as a compare/contrast figure for anything and everything they don't like. Even if you think Bush was a total moron, he is not at all morally comparable to Hitler.

When you compare people like Bush to Hitler, it doesn't make Bush seem worse, it makes Hitler seem better. It lessens the impact of what he truly did, because fifty years from now, some kid studying the events of WW-II and G.W. Bush's administration, who lacks our first-hand perspective will say, "Gee, everyone in all these books puts Bush and Hitler in the same sentence. I guess being a buffoon and malicious ethnic cleansing are basically on the same moral level." If you think that sounds impossible, just ask yourself how much you really know about Napoleon, Henry Tudor, & Genghis Khan. You only know what you've been told. We are at the mercy of the prejudices of those who have come before us.

A person can only make such comparisons if they are themselves anti-Semitic and have no respect for the Jewish people and what they went through in the 1930's & 40's - not to mention all the other citizens and soldiers, American and otherwise, who died helping to save the world from Hitler.

The work above is both thoughtless and in poor taste. Designers need to stop using Hitler in work that does not specifically deal with him and his actions. Some forms of evil can never be treated as anything other than that which they are and should not be co-opted to satisfy an absurd, personal, political prejudice.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAaron
Seriously? You're this worked up over a condom wrapper? Grow up and learn to take a joke. IT'S A JOKE. Haha? Get it?

As a German, should I get offended by having Hitler depicted this way even though prior to him becoming a homicidal maniac he actually did some good for his country? Nope, because it's a fuggin joke. That, and the fact that dude was off his rocker and was probably the most evil human in the last 100 years. But that's beside the point, I'm offended and need to blog about it!!!! Rawr!!!!

Bush was put on there because he is the most recent powerful figure to bungle things up so badly. No kid is going to lump Hitler and Bush into the same category because they see both of their faces ON A CONDOM WRAPPER. Not a single one.

I am deeply and honestly sorry for all of the misery, pain, death and injustices the jewish people went through during the 30's and 40's and even continuing later that just that. But, cry me a river about it. Do you want reparations or something? I think it's time to move on with your life.

Go ahead and start some pathetic campaign to keep the image of Hitler out of artistic pieces and see what happens. I have to go now: I need to Photoshop the head of Hitler onto some cute puppies and kittens to convince little kids how cute and adorable he really was. I mean, look at that mustache!! Don't you just want to give him a big hug????
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterErik
As a German, I think we can't ever stop comparing Hitler to modern evils.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterespihir
wow. i think you all need to chill out and stop for a bit before posting. let take out angry debate hats off and put on our professional hats on and look at the packaging for what it is and trying to say about the product.

as some one who works in the Adult Industry, i can say its full of humor and jokes from the low to the high brow. but i think this one falls a little flat in why use negatives for a positive product you want people to use? when i first saw this i thought it was a anti-condom or contraceptive campaign. i also have issue with the black on silver foil for the PDP (iv seen this done) and the detail can be lost.

Most in the Adult world try to be fun and sexy, or fringes around that. in the sexual heath and prevention world they elude to STD's mostly (even preventing births) but never in this way. now this is were the phycology of the images come in... the fact that people hold strong feeling about the people in the images could (very likely) turn off your new customers and some old.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMatt
You do realize that Hitler didn't only kill Jews? You can't just use blanket statements about how he affects you more than other people. He was responsible for the death of 11 million people from the Holocaust alone, including Communists, Roma, homosexuals, and political dissidents. This, of course, doesn't even begin to account for the countless millions that died in other countries because of the war he started.

Stop trying to claim Hitler as your own personal evil. His atrocities are linked to countries and cultures all over the world.

That said, Pinochet, Stalin, Pol Pot would all be great faces, too. And wouldn't these faces be a boner killer anyway?
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHistory Major
First off, Hitler is not a joke, nothing about him or his actions are a joke. Try telling the parents whose children were murdered in front of them because there was "no more room on the truck" that "it's just a fuggin' joke". I'm not being melodramatic, those things happened.

Secondly, you're not getting the point. It's not about the condom wrapper. At least in America, this is becoming commonplace. Increasingly, when someone wants to discredit or shut someone else, they call them a Nazi and compare them to Hitler. It's considered "the worst of all insults" if you will. But it is almost always an invalid comparison and therefore a disservice to all of us. When such a charge is made against someone who does not deserve it, it corrodes the charge and changes it's meaning.

I don't want reparations and it wouldn't matter anyway because no amount of money could rectify what happened during WW-II. I want today's designers to make thoughtful decisions and consider the cultural meaning of the work they produce. I understand what the designer intended. But our work as designers has a huge impact on society. If you are a designer I cannot believe that you don't take that responsibility seriously.

You are obviously very defensive about Hitler and the actions of your ancestors. I can understand that. I can also understand that humor is a coping mechanism used to deal with the unspeakable. Instead of defending him, take a look at Germany right after the war or East Germany up until 1989 and ask yourself how much good he really did for Germany. You don't take his atrocities seriously, despite your inclusion of the requisite, "I'm sorry for the ethnic cleansing, but..." line to prove to all that despite defending him, you're not supportive of Hitlers' actions.

When you minimize a guy like Hitler, the message you send is that he wasn't as bad as all that. Whether you want to admit it or not, that's the message being sent. We send messages with our work all the time, intended and unintended. Messages build up over time. When a message is pervasive and long lasting, it does have an impact. It's the essence of branding. A kid won't think Hitler "ain't that bad" if he sees one condom wrapper, but when a similar message becomes more pervasive and is seen repeatedly year after year, it certainly has an impact.

Go ahead and roll your eyes, but ignorance is an expensive commodity. Look at our world today. Look at what has happened in Africa the past decade or so. When people forget, no longer care and minimize the impact of similar past events, it keeps happening.

Tell you what, hop on a plane, go to Rwanda or Darfur and start cracking some "jokes" to those who survived the murders, rapes, starvation, displacement and slavery and see how funny they think it is. I guarantee you won't get a lot of smiles out of those whose wounds are much more fresh than WW-II. Grow up.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAaron
Hitler wasn't German.. he was Austrian.

Comparing anyone to Hitler is idiotic.

Putting Bush in the same line up is inane and ridiculous.

The packaging is horrible because I could do that in Photoshop in 5 seconds and it has nothing to do with the product. There is nothing new in terms of design or application, printing process, or aesthetic. I wouldn't use them because they look like generics or a gag gift.

The people that would buy these probably don't like Bush anyway and wouldn't use a condom... they would just have an abortion.

I hate the new pepsi logo.







June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJ
Yeah, this is a pretty stupid campaign. Mediocre execution. Mediocre concept.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBrett
I wouldn't want to see any of those faces just as I was about to 'get it on'. They're such a turn off you wouldn't even need a condom.

But you can't really argue with a sales increase of 21%.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJon
Everyone is taking this sh t so f cking serious... Have a laugh, move on...
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterYourBiologicalFather
I rarely blog or comment on posts but found this design so utterly offensive that I felt compelled to respond.

I have been a designer/art director for 10 years and anyone who is honest realizes that designers (and media, etc) are responsible for shaping culture - because we control messaging.

To say that design won't affect how culture perceives history is ignorant. Too many people run around wearing fashions sporting images of revolutionaries like Che Guevara or Mao Zedong without having the slightest idea who these figures were or what they actually did. They simply become cultural icons symbolizing ideals that the historical person themselves may or may not have held to. And certainly ideals that the wearer may not hold to if they really understood.

As designers, we have a RESPONSIBILITY to be mindful of what associations we make and the messages we're communicating because they DO affect culture and perception. If they DID NOT there would be no use for us. Designers exist because messaging matters and companies are willing to pay big bucks to have their message effectively communicated.

While the idea that a condom could have prevented such tragedies as the birth of Hitler, etc. is somewhat "funny-ironic" To put a former U.S. President on par with genocidal dictators is atrocious. Even if you strongly disagree with Bush's actions, this comparison is ludicrous.

I agree with Aaron that this particular design undermines the gravity of what these other men did by using them for a cheap laugh and political statements. While, I think Erik is right that putting Bush and Hitler on the same wrapper won't necessarily cause teens to EQUATE Bush and Hitler...it does create an ASSOCIATION and sends the message that Bush is evil and culpable &/or that Hussein et.al. are just other "world leaders".

That said, having Bush in the lineup is the only thing that makes it "funny" because of the ironic/ghastly comparison. If it was only a line-up of genocidal maniacs it would fail to be "funny" and just be somewhat sick. So Bush is a necessary element for "humor." But it doesn't make it right to put it out there. It should have died in the conference room after a personal chuckle at how clever they found themselves.

It is my opinion that this design is in extremely poor taste and I'm disappointed to see it on a respectable site like the dieline.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAllisa
I realize that entirely, that's why I mentioned the 70 million dead (now looking at it I realize I accidentally typed 20) across the world. Hitler started a war that literally consumed our globe. He is not my personal evil and I did not claim any such thing. Imagine the hatred the man must have had and the insanity of those that followed him.

I don't want to re-fight WW-II on The Dieline. My hope is that designers reading our comments will consider the meaning of the work they produce and pass that message on to others.

That said, I agree with the various comments on the page that the design isn't so great and is a complete romance killer. I wouldn't want to associate any of these guys with the most intimate moments in my love life.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAaron
Make the comparison's you like, but I think Allisa put it very well...

"To put a former U.S. President on par with genocidal dictators is atrocious. Even if you strongly disagree with Bush's actions, this comparison is ludicrous."
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAaron
Cheers to you Allisa. Very eloquent and right on.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAaron
You may say what you like, and your opinion is completely valid. But that does not change the fact that most German's I know (including myself) compare bush to hitler...it's the killing thing, Jews, Arabs...killing is killing, weather is foreign policy or genocide..
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterespihir
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you there.

All killing is not created equal.

If it were, we wouldn't have laws (and internal responses) that distinguish between war, genocide, ethnic "cleansing", negligent manslaughter, abortion, suicide, homicide, justifiable, homicide, serial killing, hate-crime/murder, temporary insanity, 1st, 2nd, 3rd degree murder, euthanasia, execution, capital punishment, self-defense.

The RESULTS are equally tragic (dead people). But humans inherently feel there IS a moral difference between methods/motives/degrees in bringing death to another person.

But this is an entirely new can of worms...with lots of potentially wormy bunny trails not pertinent to this particular forum.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm NOT saying killing is ever "good" or that killing one ethnicity is more "OK" than another. Simply that "killing is killing" is not borne out in human experience/society.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAllisa
i like how you capitalized Adult.
June 12, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTsufumato
I think so.. quite..
June 13, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermiyoung
All the political arguments and sympathy aside, I'd like to say that the ad is quite ordinary. The core thought is not original - as in, 'using the condom to prevent a possible disaster', has been done beautifully and better by other brands. Refer the 'kid in the supermarket ad' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es_uivijpek

Originality issue also aside, the way the idea has been executed is poor. The message is not being conveyed properly. So what if I have Hitler's picture on a condom pack? It means nothing like what the ad is trying to convey. In all a 2.5/10.
June 14, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNikhil

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